>> greta: here's karl rove. what do you make of the so-called bachmann surge? >> there are three things to say. first, she is in second place and it is a dramatic move over the last month. second, the story we don't pay attention to is mitt romney continues to a, remain in the lead and b, continues to widen his lead. there's a primary going on before the primary. the primary is who is going to be the not romney candidate? front-runner not out in front by the margin that historically we've seen. and several other candidates michelle bachmann, rick santorum, rick perry, tim pawlenty, herman cain, newt gingrich, all vying to be the not romney candidate.